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When I was younger and first watched Batman Beyond: Return of The Joker, after finding out what happened to Tim Drake I always wondered what happened to Dick Grayson in the DCAU world. It's common knowledge what tragedy befell Tim - captured and tortured by The Joker for a few weeks until he eventually revealed all of Batman's secrets, changed into a twisted kid version of the Clown Prince himself - known to most as Joker Jr. - who ends up being loyal to Bruce in the end and is the one who kills the Joker; he spent a year with Leslie Thompkins until he was back to himself, fired from his Robin role by Bruce as he blamed himself for what happened causing Tim to strike out on his own...and ultimately being taken over by The Joker, the microchip embedded on his neck which led to a fantastic showdown with Terry McGinnis, etc.

Until now, no one exactly knew what tragedy befell Dick Grayson. And it wasn't until the recent 6-issue mini-series - which will become an ongoing in the next few months, not surprisingly - that we find out exactly what happened to Batman's first partner...

...Just one.

Thankfully I knew that Terry was talking to Dick but I was still blown away by this revelation and seeing the state of the Nightwing costume nonetheless. Dick's story is equally compelling to hear, and Alfred is mentioned in said story too:

Once Upon A Time... Were ALL Of You That Bitter When You Left?!

It's pretty intriguing how Dick's tale of woe connects to the Batman Beyond series, as I was curious for years about how Bruce had a Nightwing costume in the Batcave but hasn't talked with Dick since that last mission. Still, I'm glad to see that the pieces are finally coming together after all this time of seeing an unsolved puzzle that is the awesome Batman Beyond.

Date: 2010-09-16 01:43 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] akino-ame.livejournal.com
Very interesting! And I also noticed that Bruce seemed to have learned his lesson from Tim. Where he forbade Tim to be Robin again, he didn't hesitate to invite Dick back as Nightwing, even though he had his intimacy issues like whoa.

Date: 2010-09-16 02:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_red_x/
Oh, yes. With Tim, Bruce blamed himself for what had happened which was why he didn't want him to resume his role/job as Robin. And even though he didn't work much with Dick when he was Nightwing Bruce was undoubtedly reminded of how much he needed someone to look out for him on the field.

Date: 2010-09-16 12:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] akino-ame.livejournal.com
Though now it hits me that this might be a different continuity. Joker died after that mission. There's no reason he'd kidnap Alfred, unless it was some plot to get Bruce Wayne to pay ransom. And my theory that Bruce had learned his lesson from Tim goes out the window now that I remember that detail.

Date: 2010-09-17 02:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_red_x/
Oh, yes - that thought had occurred to me sometime last night. With the way things are going comic!DCUwise, this is definitely a different continuity. Your theory could still be a valid one, if you consider the possibility that the 'Joker' Batman & Nightwing faced could've been Tim who was taken over via the microchip DNA for a short period of time. The Joker even admitted himself that he had to limit the time he spent in Tim's body, the latter contributing anything the former did to bad dreams.


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